I'm sorry but I can't find empathy for anyone who ever voted for Trump. You all can attack me but I could never vote for anyone with his lack of empathy, morale compass and no soul. I'm glad you have "seen the light" but I'll never understand how anyone thought Sandy Hook was a setup. That to me is just too hard to comprehend that be cau…
I'm sorry but I can't find empathy for anyone who ever voted for Trump. You all can attack me but I could never vote for anyone with his lack of empathy, morale compass and no soul. I'm glad you have "seen the light" but I'll never understand how anyone thought Sandy Hook was a setup. That to me is just too hard to comprehend that be cause you were a conservative your belief system was that screwed up. Come on haters I'm ready for you!
Ally is waaay more courageous than I could be to share the depths of which she's come from, on the internet. The fact that she's laid herself bare is enough for me to have empathy for her, and anyone else who finds their way out of that fog.
I think it's important to realize these people are victims of a decades-long, right-wing agenda to immerse them in propaganda, conspiracy theories and lies. They are not simply parroting what their parents say; it's much more complicated than that. Please see the books and movie I recommended to Ally in this thread and consider reading and/or watching them. You will see how we got where we are now, which can seem like a total mystery. In other words, IT WAS ON PURPOSE.
💯 these states now funding private & religious schools are part of it.
Not only do the religious private schools (who only serve wealthy kids to start with) keep charging tuition, but get our tax dollars now too! It’s absurd the way republicans manipulate the already racist school systems & then try to scream religious bias. Bull crap. They only do what profits them.
I respect this. Kathleen, no haters here. Put your dukes down. It's OK for you to feel the way you do. I don't agree with you, because better we have Ally on our side late than never, but we are not them. We don't attack others because they have a differing opinion than our own.
I am glad that Ally is on our side and I am not attacking anyone. I just find it hard to believe anyone would listen to Trumps' hate. I know conservatives who do not hate and are not conspiracy theorists.
Kathleen, this is going to be a little lengthy because I truly empathize with what you’ve said you are feeling. I’m there myself, still trying to work out my fight or flight response and as yet vacillating between them.
I sincerely wish to offer a few suggestions that have helped me navigate this justifiably righteous anger we share about remotely accommodating or forgiving anyone who has been being privy to personally observing that sociopath’s immorality and hateful rhetoric in real time and not being so immediately disgusted - full stop! - to obviously conclude without reservation that that soulless ghoul should absolutely not be allowed anywhere near the levers of power and influence egregiously given to him. Over our entire country. Impacting every person on the planet!
And I believe those of us who live consciously have all struggled with this; of giving even a moment more of even reticent grace to those who were so easily bamboozled by such a cheap and grotesque conman - not only knowing who and what that monster is, but actually celebrating the dark destructive cruelty he has unleashed.
I concur with others’ suggestions to read Stuart Stevens’s book It Was All a Lie and watch The Brainwashing of My Father doc. Both excellent and informative.
I’ll offer further recommendations to check out the work of forensic psychiatrist and violence expert Dr. Bandy X Lee who has a Substack newsletter, fantastic spotlights with Anthony Davis of Five Minute News and other interviews on YouTube and to cult expert Dr. Stephen Hassan’s book The Cult of Trump and his other works on Freedom of Mind.
Dr Lee speaks to the dangers of mass psychosis being contagious at societal scale when a malignant *leader* is given a position of power and influence, and Dr Hassan speaks to the efficacy of well honed propaganda as mind control to manipulate the belief systems of ANY individual. Mind control doesn’t discriminate across lines or levels of intelligence.
I still struggle with Dr Hassan’s suggestion to try to reach out to the indoctrinated with compassion and understanding free from judgment, but I trust his expertise is the answer to what we each must attempt to bring folks like Ally out of the cult mindset and back into collective, objective reality where objective truth isn’t up for debate.
It is impressive that Ally had the constitutional fortitude to get there of her own volition. Dr Hassan had to be deprogrammed from The Moonies in his youth!
Anyhooch, that’s my verbose but well intentioned 2 cents. Perhaps it may be of some help. 🧜♀️🩵✨
Who among us is always perfect? Anyone of us could have grown up in an information silo. What we should want and embrace is for people to continue to learn and change their thinking. Condemning them forever, in spite of their evolution, is wrong.
Kathrleen, your attitude and lack of empathy is part of the problem in our country. People change and grow, and that is to be applauded. I encourage you to examine why you can't find forgiveness or empathy for someone who has made a difficult journey toward the truth. That self-examination might help you grow and become more empathic yourself.
I do not lack empathy! I have an opinion and I stated it. I guess honesty doesn't count. One question? Who are you to judge? Yeah, I'm the problem not the 70+ million who voted a psychopath into office!
I'm sorry but I can't find empathy for anyone who ever voted for Trump. You all can attack me but I could never vote for anyone with his lack of empathy, morale compass and no soul. I'm glad you have "seen the light" but I'll never understand how anyone thought Sandy Hook was a setup. That to me is just too hard to comprehend that be cause you were a conservative your belief system was that screwed up. Come on haters I'm ready for you!
I’d hate for everyone to judge me based on what I was like when I was a young person.
Same. I was nuts!
Ally is waaay more courageous than I could be to share the depths of which she's come from, on the internet. The fact that she's laid herself bare is enough for me to have empathy for her, and anyone else who finds their way out of that fog.
I think it's important to realize these people are victims of a decades-long, right-wing agenda to immerse them in propaganda, conspiracy theories and lies. They are not simply parroting what their parents say; it's much more complicated than that. Please see the books and movie I recommended to Ally in this thread and consider reading and/or watching them. You will see how we got where we are now, which can seem like a total mystery. In other words, IT WAS ON PURPOSE.
💯 these states now funding private & religious schools are part of it.
Not only do the religious private schools (who only serve wealthy kids to start with) keep charging tuition, but get our tax dollars now too! It’s absurd the way republicans manipulate the already racist school systems & then try to scream religious bias. Bull crap. They only do what profits them.
I respect this. Kathleen, no haters here. Put your dukes down. It's OK for you to feel the way you do. I don't agree with you, because better we have Ally on our side late than never, but we are not them. We don't attack others because they have a differing opinion than our own.
I am glad that Ally is on our side and I am not attacking anyone. I just find it hard to believe anyone would listen to Trumps' hate. I know conservatives who do not hate and are not conspiracy theorists.
Agreed, but plenty people *do* listen to his hate. Problem is, their rhetoric resonates in a way with biased people, that ours doesn't/hasn't.
I think we all know conservatives who aren't on that wonky spectrum, but I count the ones who find their way out of the matrix, a blessing.
Kathleen, this is going to be a little lengthy because I truly empathize with what you’ve said you are feeling. I’m there myself, still trying to work out my fight or flight response and as yet vacillating between them.
I sincerely wish to offer a few suggestions that have helped me navigate this justifiably righteous anger we share about remotely accommodating or forgiving anyone who has been being privy to personally observing that sociopath’s immorality and hateful rhetoric in real time and not being so immediately disgusted - full stop! - to obviously conclude without reservation that that soulless ghoul should absolutely not be allowed anywhere near the levers of power and influence egregiously given to him. Over our entire country. Impacting every person on the planet!
And I believe those of us who live consciously have all struggled with this; of giving even a moment more of even reticent grace to those who were so easily bamboozled by such a cheap and grotesque conman - not only knowing who and what that monster is, but actually celebrating the dark destructive cruelty he has unleashed.
I concur with others’ suggestions to read Stuart Stevens’s book It Was All a Lie and watch The Brainwashing of My Father doc. Both excellent and informative.
I’ll offer further recommendations to check out the work of forensic psychiatrist and violence expert Dr. Bandy X Lee who has a Substack newsletter, fantastic spotlights with Anthony Davis of Five Minute News and other interviews on YouTube and to cult expert Dr. Stephen Hassan’s book The Cult of Trump and his other works on Freedom of Mind.
Dr Lee speaks to the dangers of mass psychosis being contagious at societal scale when a malignant *leader* is given a position of power and influence, and Dr Hassan speaks to the efficacy of well honed propaganda as mind control to manipulate the belief systems of ANY individual. Mind control doesn’t discriminate across lines or levels of intelligence.
I still struggle with Dr Hassan’s suggestion to try to reach out to the indoctrinated with compassion and understanding free from judgment, but I trust his expertise is the answer to what we each must attempt to bring folks like Ally out of the cult mindset and back into collective, objective reality where objective truth isn’t up for debate.
It is impressive that Ally had the constitutional fortitude to get there of her own volition. Dr Hassan had to be deprogrammed from The Moonies in his youth!
Anyhooch, that’s my verbose but well intentioned 2 cents. Perhaps it may be of some help. 🧜♀️🩵✨
Who among us is always perfect? Anyone of us could have grown up in an information silo. What we should want and embrace is for people to continue to learn and change their thinking. Condemning them forever, in spite of their evolution, is wrong.
Kathrleen, your attitude and lack of empathy is part of the problem in our country. People change and grow, and that is to be applauded. I encourage you to examine why you can't find forgiveness or empathy for someone who has made a difficult journey toward the truth. That self-examination might help you grow and become more empathic yourself.
I do not lack empathy! I have an opinion and I stated it. I guess honesty doesn't count. One question? Who are you to judge? Yeah, I'm the problem not the 70+ million who voted a psychopath into office!